I can’t help you with your issue, but I do recommend that you try to get this sorted in M-PC instead of LightJockey, if you want it to be used by the masses.
LightJockey is outdated and as far as i’m concerned, there won’t be any more updates for LJ, because M-PC has taken over. This sounds like a useful tool for lighting programmers, but it won’t be if it only supports LJ
There’s also a big chance that there’s more technical information available around M-PC, than LJ, which makes your job much easier.
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Look into how video-software like ArKaos, Resolume, and Madrix is controlled in M-PC. A similar solution for lasers, might be a good idea.
If you’re insistent on controlling your laser like a traditional fixture in LightJockey, your only option is to use DMX (or SandNet). Fixture profiles in LightJockey come in two types: External Application (which lets you transmit strings, and other diagnostic data to an application programmed specifically to receive it), and DMX (all other types of fixtures, up to 32 channels each).
Kimarius: thank you for answer, yes I know about it but honestly I’ve so many expenses about restyling/upgrading the light on the clab that save the cost of a new licence + all time to move cues to M-PC should be considered. I hope you understand.
I’m not pretending/asking a new version of LJ, just a way/trick to have a “normal fixture panels” and output from it MIDI strings containing the values, or know where LJ will map the DMX output (it could be enough for me to export them) or how to write a new External application with a virtual fixture with control panels (not only the string output panel).
I hope and think there is a trick/way without rebuild the version, or maybe something can be done for M-PC that works also on LJ (for example the External application feature can just be developed with normal control panels, and send a string with values), there were also suggestions here like artnet…
LB1: thanks. …and artnet is suppose Sandnet (I see there DMX). Now how can I assign a normal DMX fixture using Sandnet instead of USB DMX? Does Sandnet create a virtual DMX hardware and will LJ use this virtual DMX and also (contemporary) the USB DMX?
Thank you!
I’m afraid you are trying to use the software for something they are not designed for. They are DMX lighting controllers, not midi sequencers.
Consider native midi applications like Ableton or Qlab, or change your laser system to DMX input if it allows,
Laser programming is very specialized and most I see use Pangolin with a DMX board to control some parameters of Pangolin. The actual programming is done with a dedicated laser software.
Laser and Saving money usually don’t go into the same sentence and I fear you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Use the right tools for the job. LJ and M-PC can control any DMX system well, but they are not designed to do what you ask them to.
I think there is a bit of confusin here.
First I would assure you know that LJ actually supports different lasers, so it does, and that it’s not absurd to drive the lasers from the same platform I use for controlling the lights. Laser should work according to lights and produce with them the desidered effect, for example all white atmosphere, or shut down all lights to let the laser show only. It’s impossible fo the light operator and stupid to use two different platforms for producing the desidered effect, it’s smart to use one single button for it, it’s smart to create cues before the party with laser and lights together.
This is why it’s important that LJ support laser, it dows already for dmx lasers, but unfortunately most of dmx lasers doesn’t have SD card and dmx trigger of files inside it, others doesn’t properly offer .ild good compatibility. It would be really welcome then to use the standard ILDA port, driven by a lasershow software. Actually Quickshow can be controlled by MIDI, and Spaghetti is planning to do it, other softwares may already do.
I’m asking for a way to solve issue, I think it’s in your advantage since lasers are cheaper then the past now and more popular in clubs/concerts/etc.
I proposed different ways for solve it, a MIDI output with windows panels, or a way to sniff RAM looking for DMX output, or use ethernet DMX, or some instructions to build and external application (but with control panels), you may just write “no no one of these ideas is applicable, we’re not going to support you”, or “yes look here how it works”. Thank you
Hopefully we’ll concentrate on methid instay of discuss if worth or not…
Hi! I am part of the controller product management team at Martin and the admin of this forum.
Unfortunately we really can’t solve this for you as LJ is no longer actively developed and sold as is.
LJ and M-PC are DMX controllers, if your systems support DMX then its fully supported.
No other support of Laser devices is planned for either platform. Lasers are a very small market and there are great software systems specifically developed for the needs of Laser operators. Maybe you can consider synchronizing the laser software and a DMX system like M-PC over Midi Show Control.
