Hi.
Cloning with mpc/onyx was really easy and effortless on my side since 2017.
But with the 4.6 version, is not smooth as before. I understand the new library introduce a lot of concept, but here is a sugestion to improve the cloning workflow.
Here some Quantum profile, allready on the show. Added a Axcor Spot 300 Standard to be clone.
(Free onyx version as my martin m2pc is not detected by my computer. I will check that latter).
I select the Fixture 1, select a presset (Strob Fast in this case).
As you can see, this presset affect the Strobe Chanel and put a value in the strobe Frequency range.
I select the Axcor Spot 300 (before clonning). This fixture as also a Strobe frenquency range.
Let’s clone fixture 1 to fixture 504.
Select fixture 504. Some preset can now be used by the Axcore, some other (as the Strob Fast) cant’t.
I assume that the clone process wasn’t able to matche the “Strobe frenquency range” between the quantum profile and the spot 300.
Due to the high complexcity of the new library, I can easly understand this more difficult than the previous & internal library.
My main issue with this cloning “fail” is that the preset don’t recognize anymore the new fixture. The terrible thing about this is that now, the new fixture will not be correctly set on my cue who use preset.
I got a workaround to not check evry cuelist / cue (got 366 cuelist and 2340 cues on this showfile), and this is my sugestion to try to improve the cloning function.
What I suggest is : if there is a channel to clone, but the clone fail, but a default value into the destination channel. So the presset will not be lost, and the user will only have to update is preset. I am pretty sure this will not fix all case, but I assume that if a user create a preset on a channel, he prefer to update a preset with a wrong value than having a fixture who don’t use preset anymore.
As I think that Onyx is a little lost with all this new section on each channel, when I notice a channel copy failed, I delete my “new” fixtures. I select my template fixture, and change my preset to be on a default/commun value.
Clone again.
Now the preset know my new fixture.
I think if a user create a preset on a channel (pan/tilt/goboX,int/strob) the clonning function must do is best to keep the preset in the channel. If I can match the value to the new fixture, it’s perfect. If he can, please, put a default value on this channel. If not, the preset is lost.
Thanks for your attention. I hope this will help.
Thanks for your time and good product.
Regards,
Pierre