How to group something like an Pixel Bar

ONYX Software
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Hi all,

is there an option to have a “grouped virtual fixture” for something like a PixelBar. So that you can use every Pixel on its own, but you could also use the virtual fixture which would affect all RGB LEDs at one. I know that you could group every single LED but when creating a wave effect inclusing a single fixture and a group does not work. In this every Single LED of the Pixel Bar is triggered and not all at once.

Thanks for the information

Phil

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You must select the biggest multi part fixture profile for that light from the library and set the led bar to equal max channels

Check the led bar manual for the possible channel assignments - some (low end) lights do not support individual addresses for rgb

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Hi astey,

I think you got my question wrong. I have an LED Bar that has 48Ch and yes I used the 48Ch mode with the virtual dimmer enabld in Onyx for that one.

I would like to combine that LED bar together with “Single RGB Fixtures” (like an normal PAR light) within a group, BUT If you create an dimmer effect via the FX on the dimmer it will again “wave” that for every single LED in the Pixel Bar.

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But I want the wave to assign to the whole Pixel Bar.

Just asking if this is possible somehow

Thanks
Philipp

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Select your Led Bar Basic + led par fixture to set the dimmer to 100% + no fx.
Deselect all fixtures.
Select all bar part fixtures (not the main led bar one) and rgb spots - > apply color fx waves not dimmer waves.
This is it. :slight_smile:
Alternatively, do it in Dylos

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Hi astey,

still not sure if you got me right. This also ends up in each individual LED of the bar to wave and not the whole bar as one.

I created that manually now to make it more clear
This is a single led par and some vertically installed led bar and I want to have them wave/step per device

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Thanks
Philipp

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Hi @flippatspace

Thank you for the screenshot.

To achieve what you are after, I would recommend using DyLOS.

Add the fixtures to the 2D plan as per your screenshot, and then add a zone over the top.

Then in the DyLOS window run a vertical bars effect left to right across the zone, such as Factory Media > Monochrome > 11.

Your fixtures will then flash on and off left to right, essentially “grouping” your LED bars.

The nice thing about this is you could then run a diagonal effect across the zone for example, which would utilise your LED PARs and the cells of the bars.

Hope this helps.

Edward

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If you want to chase the whole bar you can either use dylos

Or you use the color presets of the main fixture and fx these directly. You can link presets to the dimmer too

Or you create a color wave grouped by 8 fixtures:

  • Select all fixtures in a linear order 5.1 through 5.8 + 6.1 through 6.8 and so on… . And save them as a group
  • use this group to create a color sine
  • go to fx settings timing and select waves by group of 8
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I’ve been struggling with this too outside of Dylos. I have tried numerous times selecting the pixels, then doing a wave by X pixels in the fixtures and it still rolls across the individual pixels and not the fixtures as a whole. Would love to know what I am doing wrong.

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Ah, I think I have it now! Select all pixels, do Block group of X pixels(X being number pixels in the fixtures), then wave set to how many fixtures you have

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Yep - this is the way to do it when you are just running across LED bars each containing the same number of pixels, however as @flippatspace wants to run the effect across LED bars and LED pars, DyLOS is the best option.

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As Edward writes: Dylos is the easiest.

Without Dylos you can create a chase cuelist:

  • Create a color preset with all led bars
  • Create a dimmer preset with all led bars included (Dimmer@100%)
  • create as many cues as you have fixtures. Set them to dimmer 0.
  • Select one of the fixtures, apply the color preset & dimmer and store it in a cue
  • Repeat this by storing each fixture in a dedicated cue of the cuelist
  • go to cuelist settings and select chase and the direction.
  • optional: disable track values from one cue to the next cue
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I really liked the way to create sine effect using the FX on the Dimmer channel (or color doesnt matter in that case) cause they can be easily adjusted in they Waves/Steps to easily create new looks. Would be really cool if the Dimmer FX in this case could also be pinned to a virtual Master Dimmer of the Fixture. This would be for me the easiest to be able to use either any Pixel in the Bar OR all Pixels at ones. Using Dylos for me sounds doable but in this case not that easy to adjust on the fly.

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Three ways to do it

Ok solution: Create your fx chase with subtracting fx curved. Create a cue list with the dimmer and set it to a higher priority in cuelist preferences. Now you can overwrite the base value.

Use an overwrite to create your fx cue, create another cue with values of 0. Set the overwrite to to q-blender

solution to control multiple chases with a single fader: Create a dedicated override with Dimmer set to zero. Fx amount (not curve) to zero
Now you can dimm from the original value to off with a single fader (inverted)

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tentou procurar o seu fixture ou pelo menos a parte dos pixels na biblioteca, bem provável que exista mas você não encontrou. eu mesmo tenho um equipamento que não encontrei na biblioteca mas encontrei a parte dos pixels logo consigo tanto usar os pixels separados no DYLOS como usar o aparelho todo com os pixels com se fossa um aparelho só.