Having the view and test functions available on the web interface, and in CLU would be great
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There should be an option to turn off the LED’s after a variable period on the nodes (specifically I have NS8’s and EN4’s in front of me). In a dark television environment where nodes might be hidden in sight of the camera, they’re VERY bright. Having the screen go dark while bright LEDs shine at your is useless. Thanks.
Hi @Luke
Welcome to the forum.
On Netron Ethernet to DMX gateways, such as EN4, the indicator LEDs can be switched off from their System > Device Settings page.
The brightness of the LEDs on the NS8 cannot be controlled.
Now that this thread has resurfaced, I’ll provide some replies, for any future readers of this thread…
This is now possible through the new “Input Priority” feature, and BS10 for EN12i…
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This could be done either using “Resend Ethernet”, or multiple simultaneous network triggers, for example from Companion.
Pricing may have changed since this post, however the RDM10 is cheaper than an EN12.
This is not possible. However, this is one of the reasons “Resend Protocol” has been added to each port - you can send this data back out onto the universe, to see what the Netron port is receiving.
Edward
Here’s some more wishlist items:
#1 is fixing this huge bug where the NS8’s often don’t take their IGMP settings and fall off the radar. This is horrid.
The ability to change settings to multiple devices at once: If I have a couple dozen EN4’s on the network and want to change the DMX speed on all of them, I should be able to select them with radio boxes and then globally push changes to them
The ability to organize the nodes in the CLU by column (ie a user can choose by device type, by name, by IP, etc). Right now it seems by device type and then I’m not sure… I can’t tell what it’s doing. It’s almost alphabetical by name, but then some nodes seem out of line. It gets unwieldy when the device counts go up though.
A tally box in the CLU devices tab to show how many of each type are on the network (ie, 16 EN4’s, 6 NS8’s, etc) so a user can quickly tell if all the expected devices are online
It would be great to be able to change more settings before clicking save, since often saving requires a refresh of of the CLU (with IP’s etc). The way ETC’s Concert works, where you can change all sorts of stuff and then “sync” to the devices would be great.
The ability to export a csv of all the nodes and their settings as a reference
The abiliity to set an individual port(s) to broadcast (aka, to suspend snooping on a per-port basis within a VLAN) to accomodate random non-compliant devices without having to broadcast to all ports
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Hi @Luke
I know we have discussed some of this via email, however for the benefit of others reading this thread, I will answer each point:
This issue is logged as NETRON-155.
Batch configuration changes is logged as feature reference number NETCLU-11.
This will be implemented in a future revision of CLU.
This is a nice idea. Logged as NETCLU-13.
The only change that requires CLU to be refreshed, is if a device’s IP address is changed. In a future update, CLU should be able to refresh just that device with its new IP address, avoiding the need to initiate a fresh discovery.
Logged as NETCLU-10.
This is an interesting idea. We would need to investigate this further.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Edward
Regarding the RDM10 and EN12.
Indeed, the RDM10 is cheaper compared to the EN12. However, it does not make any sense to have one EN12 and then 6 RDM10. It then makes more snnse to only use the RDM10 since they also can receive artnet/sACN, or just use EN12 and be able to have every output be its own universe.
What I’d like to see is a splitter, which is just like the DMX10, but then with RDM and have it priced between the two. So it makes sence to use the EN12 with a couple of rdm capable splitters. Now I’m forced to use something like the showtec booster pro, but I’d like to have my DMX gear be only Obsidian Control Systems. The RDM10 is an amazing piece of gear, but way to advanced to use as a simple splitterbooster.
And you already have the RDM6XL, but I thing it’s priced way to high. It’s cheaper to buy a RDM10 then two RDM6XL and then we’re back where we started, then there is no point in using the EN12.
Kind regards,
Bart Hornesch
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Welcome back to the forum.
Thank you very much for taking the time to share your feedback. Really glad to hear you wish to stick with Netron products.
An RDM10 without the network capabilities is an interesting idea. Would you like this device to have any form of cue storage, or simply be an RDM splitter like the RDM6. What is the ideal number of DMX/RDM inputs and DMX/RDM outputs you would like in a single device?
Edward
would be nice to have the same form factor like en12, 12 in/ output ports, 19”, a display and a knob to setup on device, rdm, max 3 inputs possible to route and merge to every output. no artnet to dmx, but networkport to use clu and webinterface for config. if a network part in such a device is a big cost factor, and if it is there, it also could artnet dmx translation, then maybe a usb port to share and manage config files and presets. thx.
Hi @deflost
Your description here is very similar to the functionality of the RDM10. Main differences being RDM10 has a maximum of two universes. If the unit has networking capabilities, it may as well feature sACN/Art-Net support.
In your mind, what would be the main differentiator between the product you have in mind, and the current RDM10? Are you simply after a third universe input, and not bothered about cue storage or close-contact triggers?
Edward
yes, because cue storeing for static dmx values makes no sense for us. cue storing and then of course triggering too, would be very interesting for us if it give us the possiblity to store sequenzes and fx stuff, maybe more timeing things then fade in and out.
thx.
Netron devices cannot currently support DMX recording, but thank you for sharing your thoughts - this is useful to know.
Cost wise, just a simple splitter like the RDM6XL would be perfect. 2 inputs and 10/12 total outputs would be ideal.
Also the principle of the dmx10 with the toggle switches works just fine.
Offcourse having a display and being able to digitally select the source per output port and also to be able to do this via the CLU would be amazing (via just a control port), but then I think it would be on the expensive side.
Like I said before the DMX10 is amazing, just missing RDM which this new device could solve
What you are describing here is the RDM10. The fact that the RDM10 also behaves as a gateway, is just a bonus that you get for free thanks to the network connection for remote configuration. You of course don’t have to use it as a gateway, and by default, it will behave as a normal AB Splitter.
Edward
But you forget the fact that the RDM10 makes no sence cost wise.
Like I said before, if I have an EN12, I would like to pair it with 6 ab splitters so I can split/boost 12 universes.
Thus having to use 6 RDM10 if I want RDM capabilities (which I need), but since they have artnet/sACN built in, why would I buy the EN12 in the first place.
And two RDM6XL are the same price as one RDM10 here in Europe so buying them would also make no sense.
So again, what I’m asking is just a RDM Capable DMX10-5/DMX10-3 which would be priced between the DMX10-5 and the RDM10 so it would make sense to use an EN12 with 6 RDM Capable ab splitters instead of just buying 6 RDM10 or for the same price and outputs just 5 EN12 which gives you even more flexibility
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Thank you for your explanation.
I’ve run the numbers, and it looks like the best value for money would be to have 5x EN12, rather than 1x EN12, plus 6 RDM AB splitters. Even if there was a new product sat between DMX10 and RDM10, I don’t think we could get it cheap enough to be a better solution than 5x EN12.
Please feel free to DM me if you’d like to chat through the actual € pricing you are working with.
Edward
Hi, will you be bringing in any security for the web interface? It would be great if there was a login page to stop anyone that connects to the network having full access to the settings. Apologies you may have already added this, but I haven’t updated to the latest version on my EN4.
@Daveyp - there is a lock device with a pin 4 digit pin code. I know that will disable the unit controls until unlocked. However, I’m not sure if that applies to the web interface also or not. I haven’t needed to try yet. You might look at that.
Thanks, I will check that out. The unit itself is pretty secure in a riser cupboard, it is more I don’t want people stumbling across it on the network and messing things up.
@Daveyp -
Without knowing how you have things setup. I would consider looking into your network configuration. Maybe work with an IT person / department and you could VLAN or make a separate network just for lighting.
In our rooms you have to either 1) have the correct machine / IP address to even get on the lighting network and 2) have a windows login for the machine. So only “authorized” people can access it. So again, depending on your setup, you may want to explore / investigate other options if you are worried about people messing with devices.
Hope this helps,
Watson
Hi @Daveyp
Netron firmware v3 introduced new Security settings, allowing for the webpage to be password protected.
This can be configured from System > Security. If you cannot find this webpage, I would recommend updating your EN4 to firmware v3. If you would like installation instructions, please let me know.
Edward
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